Super Mario Galaxy - Wii

[Nintengod]

Super Mario Galaxy - Nintendo Wii (Released 2007)

Ok, firstly don't bother scrolling straight down for the score - I will tell you now, I am giving this game full marks, the full 10 out of 10! Please read on for WHY it deserves a maximum.

Now, no surprises at all with this one, but I love ALL Mario platform games. I've got them all, played them all, and love them all, even down to the goofy Super Mario Bros 2 and black sheep Super Mario Sunshine - which it seems to be the fashion to mock these days. I couldn't care any less for Mario in all his other franchises (excluding 'Kart'). I don't want Mario to play basketball, golf, baseball, football etc etc.....I just want Mario to do what he does best......rescue an unlucky princess, and go through sewage pipes that seemingly appear from nowhere!

Lets get back to Super Mario Galaxy though. Nintendo have finally created a worthy successor to Mario 64 (Mario Sunshine was good, but it didn't feel like a proper sequel to M64). SMG is AS good, if not better than the N64 classic though. Mario 64 was more revolutionary, but Mario Galaxy has the same levels of genius behind it and the same wow factor. Same principles and story applies, Bowser kidnaps Princess, and Mario has to collect stars and at the end topple Bowser.

The worlds Nintendo and Shigeru Miyamoto have created are as beautiful and as brilliant as we've come to expect. This time though, we really ARE talking about different worlds, as this game is based in space and different galaxys. Different gravity rules apply to different worlds, and in many instances, you feel you are literally walking upside down on planetoids. Its insane, but so refreshing and different.

Super Mario Galaxy makes use of the Wii-mote by a special new "star" move which makes Mario spin. You also collect "starbites" via the wii-mote, which can open up hidden worlds. The control system is intuitive and feels great just as you'd always dreamed. Graphically it looks splendid - looks better than Super Mario Sunshine which looked fabulous anyway.

So to sum this game up....its perfect. It has the perfect learning curve, addictive and compelling gameplay, the right level of challenge (yes, it COULD be harder, but Mario Sunshine was much harder and no one seems to praise that as much!) and its simply THE best game of this generation. If you don't already have a copy, buy one...forthwith.

Score : 10/10

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[Gamer king (a title)]

Theres no surprises here. The graphics do seem of less quality in these screen shots though, but thats probably because they're stills .

[Nintengod]

Theres no suprises here. But the graphics do suck the dust of the newer consoles like Xbox 360 and PS3.

If I were the only person giving maximum marks to SMG....then I would expect a "stewards enquiry" into it, however I'm not. Everyone else rates this game above ANY Xbox 360 or PS3 game, which proves graphics mean F all. :p

Interestingly enough....if Mario Galaxy were to come out on 360 or PS3, I can't think of any way the graphics could be improved. They are perfect for the game and styling. To say they "suck the dust of the newer consoles" is pure bitterness of the fact that NOTHING on 360/PS3 has come close, or possibly ever come close to the sheer brilliance of Galaxy :) Thats a fact.

[The real gamer_thing]

I agree, the graphics could challenge any PS3/Xbox 360 game. The graphics are bright and colouful, the effects are amazing (in the melty molten galaxy you can actually see the heat shimmering), the cutscenes are great, and it all runs at a smooth framerate.

Contrary to the review, I have two VERY minor gripes: spinning is cool but I always prefered jumping on those goombas :) and secondly Spring Mario is so frustrating to use!!!

Only minor gripes though; still 10/10 for me. Good review btw.

[Nintengod]

I agree, the graphics could challenge any PS3/Xbox 360 game. The graphics are bright and colouful, the effects are amazing (in the melty molten galaxy you can actually see the heat shimmering), the cutscenes are great, and it all runs at a smooth framerate.

Contrary to the review, I have two VERY minor gripes: spinning is cool but I always prefered jumping on those goombas :) and secondly Spring Mario is so frustrating to use!!!

Only minor gripes though; still 10/10 for me. Good review btw.

Spring Mario makes only a very small part of the game, and yes its tricky, but once you get the hang of it and time it properly, its ok. I guess having a spring attached to you would naturally be difficult!

You can still jump on goomba's.....

[Gamer king (a title)]

If I were the only person giving maximum marks to SMG....then I would expect a "stewards enquiry" into it, however I'm not. Everyone else rates this game above ANY Xbox 360 or PS3 game, which proves graphics mean F all.

Interestingly enough....if Mario Galaxy were to come out on 360 or PS3, I can't think of any way the graphics could be improved. They are perfect for the game and styling. To say they "suck the dust of the newer consoles" is pure bitterness of the fact that NOTHING on 360/PS3 has come close, or possibly ever come close to the sheer brilliance of Galaxy Thats a fact.

Fine, bite my head off, what do I care. All I did was make a comment and you say all that I mean you could have said "thats you opinion" or something; I mean come on.I don't even like the 360 any more and I was just pointing out a fact that the graphics don't seem as sharp as I would like. good game though, I have no problem with the score you gave.

[KOILL]

Makes me wish there were some good platform games on the 360. The good ones: Mario, Legend of Zelda, Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, are on the other consoles. I can only shoot so many people on the 360 lol.

[Nintengod]

Fine, bite my head off, what do I care. All I did was make a comment and you say all that I mean you could have said "thats you opinion" or something; I mean come on.I don't even like the 360 any more and I was just pointing out a fact that the graphics don't seem as sharp as I would like. good game though, I have no problem with the score you gave.

GamerKing, the trouble is with that comment you made, is it sounded *****y and is the type of thing a fanboy would say who is jealous of the fact that their system simply has nothing to offer of this level.

Mario Galaxy's graphics are phenomenol anyway. The pics used don't give it justice. If you are that anal and want the graphics "sharper", then they would look that way if you plugged the Wii into a HDTV with a component lead setup. I have the HDTV, and use a scart and its just fine for me. I would have given Mario Galaxy 10 even if the graphics were hideous - the game deserves it.

I guess when consoles like the PS3 and 360 have nothing anywhere near as playable as Mario Galaxy, then all they can boast about is graphics. But we all know graphics are pretty meaningless in the scheme of things.

[Gamer king (a title)]

GamerKing, the trouble is with that comment you made, is it sounded *****y and is the type of thing a fanboy would say who is jealous of the fact that their system simply has nothing to offer of this level.

Mario Galaxy's graphics are phenomenol anyway. The pics used don't give it justice. If you are that anal and want the graphics "sharper", then they would look that way if you plugged the Wii into a HDTV with a component lead setup. I have the HDTV, and use a scart and its just fine for me. I would have given Mario Galaxy 10 even if the graphics were hideous - the game deserves it.

I guess when consoles like the PS3 and 360 have nothing anywhere near as playable as Mario Galaxy, then all they can boast about is graphics. But we all know graphics are pretty meaningless in the scheme of things.

yes, the screen shots don't serve the game justice. But the rest of your comment was very insulting to me.:(

[Nintengod]

yes, the screen shots don't serve the game justice. But the rest of your comment was very insulting to me.:(

The screenshots make no difference - the game looks great in those screenshots, and in reality, and is designed by the best games designer in the business. SMG is wonderful and makes any 360 or PS3 game seem irrelevant. As soon as you picked on the graphics, it showed how shallow and nitpicky you were about it. The PS3 and 360 could only dream a title of this calibre coming to that platform.

I don't know why you feel insulted, i implied you were a fanboy - its hardly an innaccurate statement.

[Gamer king (a title)]

I'm not a fanboy, in fact I'm selling my xbox 360. And I don't care about I was just stating a fact, it doesn't mean thats what I care about so I edited my post to reflect this.

[Nintengod]

I'm not a fanboy, in fact I'm selling my xbox 360. And I don't care about I was just stating a fact, it doesn't mean thats what I care about so I edited my post to reflect this.

The screenshots look fine, stop getting so anal about graphics. The graphics on Galaxy are fine, the screenshots are fine. The only people who care about graphics are the people who aren't true gamers.

[Gamer king (a title)]

Well I don't care about them, thats my point.

[magnumsandwich]

I cant stand mario!!

He should have never been invented!

Whats so good about him?hes a italian plumber for gods sake

[P-Sleva]

This game was great, but it is old news. Finished it, and will probably never play it again. Nintendo needs to come out with more games like this and not be pushing out a one hit wonder once a year. Most of all the other games they come out with are ****.

[magnumsandwich]

. Most of all the other games they come out with are ****.

All their games are no exceptions

[Nintengod]

This game was great, but it is old news. Finished it, and will probably never play it again. Nintendo needs to come out with more games like this and not be pushing out a one hit wonder once a year. Most of all the other games they come out with are ****.

It's a top game, best of the year easily, and well worth playing throught again. Nintendo have the best track record for video games in the industry. Oh, and no great game is "old news" - great games are timeless like this one.

All their games are no exceptions

Spoken like a true misguided fanboy.

[talentz]

Nice review I see..

Great.the screenshots are lovely and the detail of the writing Is great..
It deserves a 10/10 or more haha
best wii game yet..

[thebluesamurai]

Spoken like a true misguided fanboy.

your the biggest fanboy ever.

[Nintengod]

your the biggest fanboy ever.

Why? Once again, I fail to see how I am a fanboy. Mario Galaxy is widely regarded as THE best game of the generation, I am merely echoing that. I own every console from the previous generation, so I don't have that bias, I am just being realistic.

If you READ archowls comments about Mario, that is clearly a massive anti-nintendo rant. I was merely picking him up on that. You NEVER hear me say "oh sonic is just a ugly blue hedgehog that needs to be run over and all his games are ****".....i have passed some praise towards the Sonic games....Archowl is just being a fanboy *****.

[Punkster]

nin - well you do kind of bum off this one game.

[Nintengod]

nin - well you do kind of bum off this one game.

Another pointless comment from you. I did a review on the game, and the FACT is, its the best game of recent years. I think its a case of sour grapes, and its always from 360 and PS3 owners banging on about how crap Mario Galaxy is compared to their 2,000 first person shooters :rolleyes:

[Punkster]

Another pointless comment from you. I did a review on the game, and the FACT is, its the best game of recent years. I think its a case of sour grapes, and its always from 360 and PS3 owners banging on about how crap Mario Galaxy is compared to their 2,000 first person shooters :rolleyes:

lol you make me laugh, the way you said it and how it's partly true, esp.about the 2000 shooter games bit.

but still, Mario galaxy didn't really introduce anything amazingly new. Waving a Wiimote at the screen is a bit... well common now - nobody is seriously impressed by it any more.

the gameplay is still quite similar to its predecessors - collecting coins and jumping on and flattening those weird monster things and saving a princess who always seems to get kidnapped no matter what.

EDIT: lol, i think this player review of the game is so funny and over the top -

Super Mario Galaxy
The worst **** ever since Zelda
by JoeZingh
This Review's Trust Rating: 10 138

November 20, 2007 - After their latest Zelda, i didn't think Nintendo would be making another game for quite a while.But when they made this crap i was enraged.9.7?My ****.You always make rating mistakes with Nintendo, IGN.**** always happens with games like this.I bought my Wii to play Wii sports and decided to buy this game after my friends were talking about it.An absolute waste of money.Mario hasn't changed much.Graphics are only OK and has a really cartoonish look.I don't find this game fun, too.It's some boring **** crap made in hell.Well, i guess i won't be using my Wii again for awhile now.

Absolutely idiotic.

Pros:New.

Cons:Graphics not good enough for 07.Very boring, dtory still similar to previous titles,sound is downright bad.

then he gave all the "presentation", graphics, etc.. scores - 0 each!!

10 out of 130 agreed with him on IGN, the rest disagreed. here's the review from IGN. http://rr.wii.ign.com/rrview/wii/super_mario_galaxy/748588/76253/

EDIT: and also this made me laugh

Controls - The controls would be great.... if you were able to play this game with a normal controller and not with this dildo of an abomination. After about 12 hours of play, it still doesn't feel right, GOOD GOD I want to play with the Game Cube pad again.

Gameplay - It's just not that fun, Why are the levels so short? Just when I'm starting to get into it, the level is over. Believe me, I wanted so badly for something to justify purchasing that little white **** box, this ain't it! If Smash Bros. Brawl sucks I'm going to off myself.

i love the use of "a dildo of an abomination" to describe the Wiimote.

[Nintengod]

The Wii-mote is perfectly suited to the game, ie collecting the star bits, and using it in the motion sections and firing at enemies. "waving" the wiimote is really no issue, you don't notice doing it, and its for the spin attacks, so it makes sense. I'm bored of controllers with so many buttons.....Nintendo have at last got a refreshing approach.

Super Mario Galaxy is a step forward in the Mario series. It was always going to be difficult to top Mario 64, but in many ways it has. It's a fantastic addition to the series, and why everyone is raving about it. Mario Galaxy is VERY impressive a game and the environments, the gravity, is pretty innovative and new.

It's only Sony fanboys who detest the fact that their console in over a year doesn't have even one decent exclusive game, and is left with half-baked 360 ports.

[Punkster]

we have different tastes in games. Personally, I don't think there is one singular best game of the generation, because everyone likes different genres.

As a platform game, I will agree that Mario Galaxy is the best, coz there just aren't many other good platform games atm for this generation.

However, Mario Galaxy doesn't go into any of the other genres so i don't think it's THE singular best game of this generation.

I would say that other "best" games of each genre are

Shooter:------------------Crysis, Call of Duty 4, The Orange Box, Halo 3
real time strategy:-------World in Conflict
rpg:-----------------------Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion
racing----------------------Forza Motorsport 2
AND platform: -----------Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Plus, you do kind of depict yourself as a fanboy, mainly becoz you own only a Wii, you have Wario as your display pic and your name is Nintengod --->

---> Nintendo = because you like the games company and
---->God= because you think you're of a higher authority to everyone else, which explains your arrogance sometimes! :p - i've started a flame war haven't i! I bet you're going to comment on the immaturity of my name and display pic!

EDIT: and on Gamespot, it was actually COD4 which got voted the game of the year, not Super Mario Galaxy.

[Nintengod]

I would say that other "best" games of each genre are

Shooter:------------------Crysis, Call of Duty 4, The Orange Box, Halo 3
real time strategy:-------World in Conflict
rpg:-----------------------Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion
racing----------------------Forza Motorsport 2
AND platform: -----------Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl



EDIT: and on Gamespot, it was actually COD4 which got voted the game of the year, not Super Mario Galaxy.

Crysis is far from the best shooter in this generation.

Gamespots GAME OF THE YEAR for 2007 was Super Mario Galaxy. Not COD4..... ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameSpot

Scroll about halfway down the page to see the "best and worst" section, and it will list game of the years since 1996. Oh look....in 2000 "The Sims" got game of the year. It's just not your day today is it punkster?? :p

[Punkster]

oh, i was looking at Gamespot UK reader's choice awards instead.
http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6187351.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;1
there it says that people in the UK voted for COD4 being the game of the year.

since we both live in the UK, it applies to us and i think this is a good supported argument that not everybody in the UK thinks that Super Mario Galaxy is "the best game of this generation".

apparently COD4 is but i disagree with that also! i don't see any outstanding games of this generation of consoles yet.

[Nintengod]

oh, i was looking at Gamespot UK reader's choice awards instead.
http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6187351.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;1
there it says that people in the UK voted for COD4 being the game of the year.

since we both live in the UK, it applies to us and i think this is a good supported argument that not everybody in the UK thinks that Super Mario Galaxy is "the best game of this generation".

apparently COD4 is but i disagree with that also! i don't see any outstanding games of this generation of consoles yet.

Readers choice? I would rather listen to gaming experts who write reviews than a bunch of insecure chavs with chips on their shoulders who think its "hard" to like FPS games. Ultimately, Mario Galaxy is a timeless classic, where as COD4 is just another FPS which will disappear into obscurity when the next FPS comes along tomorrow.

Mario Galaxy is the best game of this generation, whether you disagree or not, the majority of gaming experts who don't care about fads like FPS, agree that it is.

Super Mario Galaxy is an outstanding game, and people will be talking about it for years to come. COD4 will be a distant memory when COD5 comes out.

[Punkster]

haha, so you're saying that the majority of gamers in the UK are chavs - harsh!

I think most of the reviews you've read are from game reviewers who mainly only review Wii games, so how can they compare mario galaxy to all the other games. and come up with the conclusion that it is "the best game of the generation" - anyway, i think super smash bros brawl is better than this game. it is probly the best multiplayer game ever to come out on wii, plus it sounds like it's got a nice single player component.

whereas mario galaxy doesn't offer a great multiplayer experience. i think console games nowadays are more focused on multiplayer which is why COD4 is so successful. and let me guess, you're going to say that you'd rather play by yourself than play with a bunch of teenage nerds online.

yes i agree that COD4 is pretty crap considering the huge number of games similar to it, it's just that COD4 perfected the modern war shooter game experience and didn't introduce anything new. nonetheless, it is still a great game.

[Nintengod]

haha, so you're saying that the majority of gamers in the UK are chavs - harsh!

I think most of the reviews you've read are from game reviewers who mainly only review Wii games, so how can they compare mario galaxy to all the other games. and come up with the conclusion that it is "the best game of the generation" - anyway, i think super smash bros brawl is better than this game. it is probly the best multiplayer game ever to come out on wii, plus it sounds like it's got a nice single player component.

whereas mario galaxy doesn't offer a great multiplayer experience. i think console games nowadays are more focused on multiplayer which is why COD4 is so successful. and let me guess, you're going to say that you'd rather play by yourself than play with a bunch of teenage nerds online.

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Er no, the reviews i've read are mainly from multiformat publications. It's the highest rated overall game of all time - and thats spanned over numerous reviews. Nothing has come close other than Ocarina of Time and perhaps Soul Calibur.

As for the UK gamers comment. No, but I think people who vote in these polls are teenagers/chavs who are only interested in one style of game - FPS. When they finally grow up, and vote, they'd probably have more diverse tastes.

COD4 is successful, but lets not forget that so is Super Mario Galaxy. SMG is only on the Wii, where as COD4 is on 360/PS3/PC yet both have sold similar quantities. I suspect that Super Mario Galaxy will have the longer legs in the sales race as well, as more shoot em ups flood the market and Mario games have ALWAYS sold massively over long periods of time......just look at "New Super Mario Bros" on the DS.....its still selling huge numbers years after release!

COD4 isn't a competitor to SMG......Half Life 2 maybe, but the reality is, that SMG is the most widely considered game to be the best of the generation. Super Smash Bros Brawl looks like a real hoot.....but I don't think again it will have that perfection that SMG has. Either way, both games have been designed by the BEST games designer of all time in Shigeru Miyamoto.

[Punkster]

super mario galaxy is the best game of all of this generation then.

[Nintengod]

super mario galaxy is the best game of all of this generation then.

Yes it is. The generation is young though, so it may be bettered. So far we have seen:

Mario Galaxy
Zelda Twilight Princess
Gears of War
Metroid Prime 3
Oblivion
Half Life 2
COD 4
Smash Bros Brawl

Edit : Super Mario Galaxy according to Gamerankings (which is a vast collection of accumulated review scores) is the 2nd best game ever. I think it slipped a place, and Ocarina of Time is back at #1.

Here is the top 10:


The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - Nintendo 64 (97.613%)
Super Mario Galaxy - Wii (97.259%)
Metroid Prime - Nintendo Gamecube (96.264%)
Soulcalibur - Dreamcast (96.259%)
The Orange Box - PC (96.183%)
The Orange Box - Xbox 360 (96.036%)
Super Mario 64 - Nintendo 64 (95.905%)
Resident Evil 4 - Nintendo Gamecube (95.836%)
Tekken 3 - Playstation (95.804%)
Resident Evil 4 - Playstation 2 (95.673%)

[Wiibertine]

Just bought this game. I've made it to the second galaxy.

I'm highly impressed so far, and as much as you haters like to think that this is nothing new, the fact remains that it's the most refreshing piece of software for years.

[Punkster]

would anyone say that this game is a bit repetitive, running around orbs stomping on monsters and basically collecting stars?

i'd just like to know is all.

[Nintengod]

would anyone say that this game is a bit repetitive, running around orbs stomping on monsters and basically collecting stars?

i'd just like to know is all.

No, its not repetitive, just as all the previous Mario games were not repetitive. They are involving, have that perfect learning curve, and the right difficulty level that makes you want to come back for more.

Of course the ultimate goal is to collect all the stars, but each level is so well designed, and there is plenty of things needed to be done in each and naturally loads of secrets.

[Punkster]

maybe i'll persuade my sister's boyfriend to get it, so i can have a go at it! coz he's got a Wii. but he's more into racing games though, so it'll be hard to persuade him to get super mario galaxy.

[Wiibertine]

Just finished an EPIC battle with bowser. I'm loving every minute of it.

[shakafun]

Looks Great and Fun... havent play wii for awhile tho

[r0flmobile]

Looks like a great game.
And it's even been awarded editor's choice by Gamespot, so it must be good.
Can't wait until I get it :p.

~Roflmobile

[Wiibertine]

This game continues to get better for me. I love the ghost house galaxy, that is my favourite segment..so far.

[Nintengod]

This game continues to get better for me. I love the ghost house galaxy, that is my favourite segment..so far.

The game is pure class. I am up to 118 stars now. Fortunately i've gotten out of the way the devilishly hard Luigi's Purple Coins level. Will polish the other 2 off tonight.

A tip for Luigi's Purple Coins (with Mario that is) - go anti-clockwise around and work from the outside to the inside then it should be ok. Lots of long jumps, and spin jumps are needed, and avoid landing on the tiles which DON'T have a coin on them as you may need them to get back to the star. Don't worry about the time either.

[LiquidSnake]

I guess i better run out and buy this game is the price still $50.00 in the U.S.?

[gizmo91]

Yes its really awesome game.

[spike2937]

after seeing this, i feel like going to play on it now :P

[powerblade]

yea its aewsome and cool and all

[SpEeDyZ]

Mario is perhaps the most popular game in the world so no wonder!

[Banyon]

I still need to get this game. I don't know why I have put it off for this long. I am adding it to my Gamefly queue right now. You guys made me do it.

[eltonjohn24]

Yes the screen shots doen not gave justice to the game. Im now thinking if im going to buy this game or not. I love Mario but if the game play is just like the on screen shots i would not rather go for it. it is too colorfull

[Booma]

Yes the screen shots doen not gave justice to the game. Im now thinking if im going to buy this game or not. I love Mario but if the game play is just like the on screen shots i would not rather go for it. it is too colorfull
That is absolutely hilarious, you are considering not buying a Mario game because it is "too colourful", what Mario game hasn't been full of colour? How would it even be a Mario game if it wasn't colourful? What is even the definition of "too colourful" or is it just relative? You're judging gameplay from screenshots? Well you really must know your stuff, why bother reading reviews or hiring the game to try it out when you can judge the gameplay on screenshots, I guess we're not all supermen like you.

[P-Sleva]

yawn,,,,, this should be moved to the retro section already.

[Nintengod]

Good game, but the only one that is for the Wii. Old news

Plenty of great games on the Wii, which is precisely why its sales figures are pissing all over the PS3 and 360 combined.

360,000 Wii's sold in America this week alone, compared with the 145,000 PS3s and 120,000 360s sold.

The Wii has taken nicely over the mantle of the Playstation 2s mainstream success. Poor Sony must be hugely frustrated that they are left with 3rd place, trying to catch up (VERY SLOWLY) with Microsoft's hapless 360 :)

[nazura08]

Nice review, well done !!!!

[Raving Rabbid]

Great review, however I personally feel that 64 has the edge over galaxy. I felt Galaxy was to short and easy (to simply finish the game, I recognise that to get all 120 stars is a different story). 64 just had a little more challenge in getting the stars, and the Bowser battles were also far more challenging.

[Nintengod]

Great review, however I personally feel that 64 has the edge over galaxy. I felt Galaxy was to short and easy (to simply finish the game, I recognise that to get all 120 stars is a different story). 64 just had a little more challenge in getting the stars, and the Bowser battles were also far more challenging.

I found Galaxy and Mario 64 of about the same difficulty level. Perhaps initially Galaxy is a little easier, but it gets trickier and on par with Mario 64 in time. Plus the bonus is that once you complete Galaxy with 120 stars, you can do it all again with Luigi which is even harder!

I think Mario 64 was more impressive and influential for its time.....but Mario Galaxy is as intuitive and as genius as Mario 64 if you disregard the timing factor.

[Shooting Palanx]

*Deleted all pointless posts in the section*

Come on P Sleva and Fusion, not here, and don't start.

Otherwise, nice review Nin :), thumbs up, even though I couldn't finish the 64 version, 116 stars damn!!

This game must be awesome :D

[fusionx449]

what did i post? meh anyway just got it through the post :D *big smile*

[Shooting Palanx]

^^Above post is also pointless, post something about the game, or don't post :)

Lol, seriously.

[flameboy118]

FANBOY REVIEW. and from and earlier post nintendgod, its not a 'fact' that its better than any 360/ps3 game

[Nintengod]

FANBOY REVIEW. and from and earlier post nintendgod, its not a 'fact' that its better than any 360/ps3 game

Oh just be quiet. I understand you are besotted by anything on PS3....but there is nothing on the PS3 quite in the same league as Mario Galaxy. Get over it.

Super Mario Galaxy is THE best game on any system since Ocarina of Time. FACT. It's the first game i've played in years that has got me back for more and more. It's got the Shigeru Miyamoto magic touch applied to it, and that's why it deserved 10/10.

Why o why are Playstation fanboys the biggest cry babys??? :rolleyes:

[flameboy118]

honestly im not a ps3 fanboy (see all my anti-ps3 posts), and also ive had the wii, twiilight princess, metroid 3, galaxy, brawl, mariokart, no more heroes, super paper mario all on launch day. doesnt have any good games yet, and i love galaxy. i just think that yu think that just because you think galaxy is the best, it makes it the best- opinions are not objective, and you need to see it from other peoples opinions. its not necessarily THE best game since ocarina, detractors would call it repetative etc. im always arguing for galaxy against friends who never bothered finishing it in favour of games like gears of war (uh), but i think you are just ridiculous. you were posting on ps3 threads saying how those games arent as good as galaxy before i started being a 'cry baby'

[Nintengod]

honestly im not a ps3 fanboy (see all my anti-ps3 posts), and also ive had the wii, twiilight princess, metroid 3, galaxy, brawl, mariokart, no more heroes, super paper mario all on launch day. doesnt have any good games yet, and i love galaxy. i just think that yu think that just because you think galaxy is the best, it makes it the best- opinions are not objective, and you need to see it from other peoples opinions. its not necessarily THE best game since ocarina, detractors would call it repetative etc. im always arguing for galaxy against friends who never bothered finishing it in favour of games like gears of war (uh), but i think you are just ridiculous. you were posting on ps3 threads saying how those games arent as good as galaxy before i started being a 'cry baby'

You've just named a whole bunch of great Wii games there. They are quality games that have been really well received. Considering the Wii is still a "young" console, its got some absolute belters already....so to say "doesn't have any good games yet" is just totally misguided. ESPECIALLY when you consider that the PS3 doesn't have anywhere near the same quality of titles available.

There will ALWAYS be detractors from any games made, as no game is perfect. But it would appear that Mario Galaxy is getting more universal praise and fewer detractors than most.....this kind of suggests its up there amongst the Ocarina of Time, Half Life, Mario 64 league. ;)

[The real gamer_thing]

Great. Another full scale argument. :rolleyes:

It may not be fact that it is the greatest game since OoT, that is opinion. What can be justified as fact is that it has been the highest rated game since Ocarina of Time.

There will be people who think Mario Galaxy is not one of the best game ever (mostly FPS addicts who can't stand a game without a gun :) ) But there is no doubt that it is one of the best games of this generation, and professional reviews prove it.

[Nintengod]

Great. Another full scale argument. :rolleyes:

It may not be fact that it is the greatest game since OoT, that is opinion. What can be justified as fact is that it has been the highest rated game since Ocarina of Time.

There will be people who think Mario Galaxy is not one of the best game ever (mostly FPS addicts who can't stand a game without a gun :) ) But there is no doubt that it is one of the best games of this generation, and professional reviews prove it.

Amen to that. I got accused of being a fanboy because I gave Mario Galaxy 10/10 like pretty much every other reviewer on the planet :rolleyes:

I agree about the FPS comment. There are those that like well thought out games like Mario Galaxy and Twilight Princess.....and there are those that like any old cynically rehashed first person shoot em up just because its "genre of the moment". Galaxy was a breath of fresh air to an industry clogged up with violent shoot em ups.

[Misa Misa]

Amen to that. I got accused of being a fanboy because I gave Mario Galaxy 10/10 like pretty much every other reviewer on the planet :rolleyes:

I agree about the FPS comment. There are those that like well thought out games like Mario Galaxy and Twilight Princess.....and there are those that like any old cynically rehashed first person shoot em up just because its "genre of the moment". Galaxy was a breath of fresh air to an industry clogged up with violent shoot em ups.

Mario Galaxy deserved 10/10, I'm a harsh rater but even I agree! They pretty much nearly did everything right. Some of the levels blew me away! I agree about shoot em ups aswell, the market is full of them, it's great to see something new that the Wii provides.

[The real gamer_thing]

Sort of off topic:

Has anyone tried the new Mario Kart competition? Good to see a little bit of Mario Galaxy being transfered to racing karts :)

[flameboy118]

nope i havent

@nin- when i said no great games yet i meant ps3, not wii. i was saying im not a ps3 fanboy. ive already said im not gonna argue with you AGAIN. but you really need to get over yourself and accept tat other people have opinions too.

[fusionx449]

to the FPS thing here...personally the last good FPS was portal and that wasnt really a FPS...mind you it had some sort of gun...

i had no chance playing Mario Galaxy due to my mum playing it 24/7..therefore the game must well and truely be perfect....

[Nintengod]

to the FPS thing here...personally the last good FPS was portal and that wasnt really a FPS...mind you it had some sort of gun...

i had no chance playing Mario Galaxy due to my mum playing it 24/7..therefore the game must well and truely be perfect....

Mario Galaxy is nigh on perfect. Game of 2007, and arguably the greatest game of the generation and since Ocarina of Time.

[flameboy118]

Mario Galaxy is nigh on perfect. Game of 2007, and arguably the greatest game of the generation and since Ocarina of Time.

in your opinion. not everybody necessarily thinks that. im not gonna go saying that games are better than it because its your post..... heard of anyone doing that? going on sombodies thread about a game and slagging it off in favour of another

great game though. i would maybe go 9.5/10, but meh

[Nintengod]

in your opinion. not everybody necessarily thinks that. im not gonna go saying that games are better than it because its your post..... heard of anyone doing that? going on sombodies thread about a game and slagging it off in favour of another

great game though. i would maybe go 9.5/10, but meh

Most people think Super Mario Galaxy IS a classic game already, and a 9.5/10 from you is indication of that. That is why it was game of 2007 (by virtually all games magazines and gamers), and why its constantly hailed as one of the greatest games of all time.

You have to face facts that MGS 4 is destined to be as mediocre and overrated as the previous incarnations, and thats why its average review score will be quite a fair bit lower than Mario Galaxy's on Metacritic, Gamerankings etc. These ARE opinions, and the majority rate SMG as one of the all time greats.

So get over it :p

[flameboy118]

w/e. you get over it. you havent played mgs4 yet. the only people who matter to do with mgs are the fans, there will be haters, but that doesnt matter to us. its not mediocre and overrated in the slightest

[Nintengod]

w/e. you get over it. you havent played mgs4 yet. the only people who matter to do with mgs are the fans, there will be haters, but that doesnt matter to us. its not mediocre and overrated in the slightest

Who cares about the fans. The MGS series since MGS2 has bored the pants off the majority who like to play real videogames and not faff about with ludicrous amateur storylines.

There are "haters" for all games, and the fact that there are MORE MGS haters than SMG haters suggests that Super Mario Galaxy IS in fact a better game.

[Punkster]

haters suggests that Super Mario Galaxy IS in fact a better game.

nin, the way you go on about Mario Galaxy all the time makes me want to hate that game. :p

[Nintengod]

nin, the way you go on about Mario Galaxy all the time makes me want to hate that game. :p

That says a lot about how fickle and shallow you are then. Base the game on its many merits, not what I say about it.

The game is a masterpiece, and my only complaint is that it should have been for 500 stars, rather than 120 stars.....but every game has to have an end, and it would have been in development till 2012!

[flameboy118]

uh please shut up..... get over galaxy, its the only worthwhile game yet on wii, and the reason mgs has more haters is it takes more risks- it defies the usual rules for games. some people dont like that (you) but when you say who cares about the fans, the fans are the ones who love the games, and so people like you who wouldnt admit to mgs4 being awesome if it came down from heaven in a ray of light dont matter when it comes to mgs

[P-Sleva]

Three words for the galaxy killer....Little big planet.

[flameboy118]

think so? il have to see, it has such potential and is so cute!

[Nintengod]

uh please shut up..... get over galaxy, its the only worthwhile game yet on wii, and the reason mgs has more haters is it takes more risks- it defies the usual rules for games. some people dont like that (you) but when you say who cares about the fans, the fans are the ones who love the games, and so people like you who wouldnt admit to mgs4 being awesome if it came down from heaven in a ray of light dont matter when it comes to mgs

MGS is pathetic, it never takes any risks.....Metal Gear Solid has been the SAME game since 1998 when the original came out, only the story has become so far fetched and ludicrious and juvenile.

I'd LOVE to say MGS 4 was brilliant, but its clear from reviews thus far, that its the same as MGS 2 and 3.....same old same old. We know what to expect.

Super Mario Galaxy on the other hand has broken boundaries by creating worlds with different gravity, and taking the platform genre a step forward. There is no game on any system quite like it.

Three words for the galaxy killer....Little big planet.

Blah blah blah....i heard the same old bull**** about Haze, Heavenly Sword and another one I can't remember because it failed to live up to the desperate hype from Sony fanboys. They all turned out to be RUBBISH!!!!

Face facts.....Sony or MS consoles will NEVER get a platform game in the same league as Galaxy. Nintendo monopolises the genre whether you like it or not.

[Shooting Palanx]

I have yet to play the game, but my cousin stayed up for AGES playing it, all I did was watch, and I woke back up and it was like 3:30AM, and he was still playing.

Addictive, yes?

[Misa Misa]

I have yet to play the game, but my cousin stayed up for AGES playing it, all I did was watch, and I woke back up and it was like 3:30AM, and he was still playing.

Addictive, yes?

Yeah it is. I played until I completed it, which was a very short space of time. The end boss was far too easy though which was quite dissapointing! But that's like all games are these days.

[flameboy118]

MGS is pathetic, it never takes any risks.....Metal Gear Solid has been the SAME game since 1998 when the original came out, only the story has become so far fetched and ludicrious and juvenile.

I'd LOVE to say MGS 4 was brilliant, but its clear from reviews thus far, that its the same as MGS 2 and 3.....same old same old. We know what to expect.

Super Mario Galaxy on the other hand has broken boundaries by creating worlds with different gravity, and taking the platform genre a step forward. There is no game on any system quite like it.



Blah blah blah....i heard the same old bull**** about Haze, Heavenly Sword and another one I can't remember because it failed to live up to the desperate hype from Sony fanboys. They all turned out to be RUBBISH!!!!

Face facts.....Sony or MS consoles will NEVER get a platform game in the same league as Galaxy. Nintendo monopolises the genre whether you like it or not.

um right.... theres just no reasoning with you. besides, at least sony fanboys are looking forward to something- your looking backwards and worshipping the same game. There was a time when I thought everything Nintendo was the best, but not any more. I still love them, but they never have enough replay value, and something like Galaxy is inconsistant- some galaxies are better than others, and they make you play almost te same level three times over. you havent played mgs4, or crysis or little big planet, so you can shut up

[Nintengod]

um right.... theres just no reasoning with you. besides, at least sony fanboys are looking forward to something- your looking backwards and worshipping the same game. There was a time when I thought everything Nintendo was the best, but not any more. I still love them, but they never have enough replay value, and something like Galaxy is inconsistant- some galaxies are better than others, and they make you play almost te same level three times over. you havent played mgs4, or crysis or little big planet, so you can shut up

Crysis got mediocre reviews, MGS 4 is getting inconsistent reviews and reporting on the same flaws, and Little Big Planet is one of those games like Haze and Heavely Sword that will ultimately fail to live up to the hype. Nobody makes platform games like Shigeru Miyamoto.....everyone has got used to that now and accepted that.

Mario Galaxy is of course going to have some more interesting levels than others, just as there are always more interesting sections to one game than another. It isn't "inconsistent", but just the nature of ANY videogame.

Look forward to your mediocre games. I'm loving the fact that the Wii has the best game of the generation, and also the FINEST version of the BEST game from last generation (Resident Evil 4) :p

[Capital_Cougar7]

Resident Evil 4, the best game of last generation? That statement is something I have to disagree on. There were too many good games out for that to be the best game of last generation. Hell GTA series then was the best if not the Halo games. Then again there are many more games that were great.

[Nintengod]

Resident Evil 4, the best game of last generation? That statement is something I have to disagree on. There were too many good games out for that to be the best game of last generation. Hell GTA series then was the best if not the Halo games. Then again there are many more games that were great.

The GTA games? Hmmmm....whilst great games, had a number of flaws and faults. Resident Evil 4 was nigh on perfect. Awesome on the Gamecube, and a solid port of PS2.

Other main contenders for best game of last gen though, other than the Halo's or GTA would be Metroid Prime, Zelda Wind Waker, God Of War series.

Ratings wise, Metroid Prime and Resident Evil 4 basically monopolise last generation.

[Misa Misa]

The GTA games? Hmmmm....whilst great games, had a number of flaws and faults. Resident Evil 4 was nigh on perfect. Awesome on the Gamecube, and a solid port of PS2.

Other main contenders for best game of last gen though, other than the Halo's or GTA would be Metroid Prime, Zelda Wind Waker, God Of War series.

Ratings wise, Metroid Prime and Resident Evil 4 basically monopolise last generation.

Best game of that time I'd say was Wind Waker. I loved that game, and even though it did have flaws I have a real sentimental passion about Zelda which made me love it regardless.

[Capital_Cougar7]

GTA had high ratings and the reason why people buy a PS2. Halo was the reason to get an Xbox ( hence the fact there was so much hype around the 3rd installment & the reason it broke records). Halo & GTA have always been consistent high rated & high selling games. Mario will never beat either of those games in sales, but rating wise yeah it can compete.

[Nintengod]

GTA had high ratings and the reason why people buy a PS2. Halo was the reason to get an Xbox ( hence the fact there was so much hype around the 3rd installment & the reason it broke records). Halo & GTA have always been consistent high rated & high selling games. Mario will never beat either of those games in sales, but rating wise yeah it can compete.

Mario World and Mario Bros 3 have both sold more than any GTA game or Halo game.....and I reckon that "New Super Mario Bros" on the DS has a fairly good crack at outselling GTA as well (easily past Halo sales already). New Mario Bros has sold 14.5m copies since its release, and is still selling really well (only San Andreas sold more but that had a MUCH larger userbase to sell to, as the PS2 had sold over 110m units).

Yes, the GTA was a big reason why people bought a PS2....and same for Halo on the Xbox. But they both were flawed, and COULD have been better. San Andreas was TOO ambitious for the hardware it was on, and it was quite glitchy and repetitive. Can't say much about Halo, as I own it, but rarely play on it.

Either way, Metroid Prime and Resident Evil 4 got much better reviews, and Mario Galaxy is on the same level.

EDIT : HURRAH FOR SUPER MARIO GALAXY!!! It's elevated itself back to #2 in Gamerankings best games of all time. The PS3 and 360 versions of GTA 4 have slipped to 3rd and 4th respectively :)

[Punkster]

EDIT : HURRAH FOR SUPER MARIO GALAXY!!! It's elevated itself back to #2 in Gamerankings best games of all time. The PS3 and 360 versions of GTA 4 have slipped to 3rd and 4th respectively :)

hehe, you bum off that game so much.

[Nintengod]

hehe, you bum off that game so much.

Rightfully so. Gotta love the fact that two of the highest ranked games ever are by Ninty! :D

[flameboy118]

from earlier, im shocked but im gonna agree with nin. i think re4 and metroid prime probably were the best games (not counting pc games- half life 2). especially metroid prime. closely followed by things like wind waker, ffX, mgs2&3 (;)) and such, but metroid prime (followed by re4) is the best. i dont think the wii version of re4 is the best- gamecube one all the way! and you say all your opinions like there facts- youve got to stop!

[Nintengod]

from earlier, im shocked but im gonna agree with nin. i think re4 and metroid prime probably were the best games (not counting pc games- half life 2). especially metroid prime. closely followed by things like wind waker, ffX, mgs2&3 (;)) and such, but metroid prime (followed by re4) is the best. i dont think the wii version of re4 is the best- gamecube one all the way! and you say all your opinions like there facts- youve got to stop!

Difference is, my opinions have facts and proof....they have BASIS. This is far better than someone ranting on about games that haven't been released yet, or games barely touched the shelves of game stores! :rolleyes:

Sorry, but the Wii version is the definitive version of Resident Evil 4....thats another FACT. It has all the PS2 extra's in it, along with the Gamecube engine (and you can run it at a higher res), as well as the motion controls.

To say the Gamecube version is better is like saying you prefer the tape version of an album you like, more than the CD version....ie, it makes no sense at all. You really don't do yourself any favours.

[Punkster]

Difference is, my opinions have facts and proof....they have BASIS. This is far better than someone ranting on about games that haven't been released yet, or games barely touched the shelves of game stores! :rolleyes:

well to be fair, you are kind of slagging MGS4 out even though it hasn't come out yet and you haven't even tried it yourself.

[flameboy118]

yeah, thats the thing you say its facts- actually, everybody thinks their opinions are facts- they cant think that their opinions are wrong- that would be stupid. you dont realise this and value your opinions above all others

basically i hate the motion controls for re4.... i find it silly that you can put the crosshair, for example, on the back of leons head when you can see hes aiming in front of him

[fusionx449]

Resident Evil 4 better on the Wii..meh well i would say no...may be because i enjoy it so much on the GC more...who knows..

[Punkster]

i think good old fashion mouse and keyboard are the best for first person shooter games.

but i think the conventional control pad is better than the wiimote. i tried wiimote for metroid prime and didn't like it. turning around was difficult and not fast enough for a game which requires such speedy reactions. though to be fair, i only played for a few minutes, so i might have got used to it after time.

though i still think normal control pad with a bit of auto-aim is best for a console shooter. halo's controls are, what i think, almost perfect.

[Shooting Palanx]

Meh, I like my shooters, good and bloody!?!

I don't like playing with the keyboard or the mouse at all.

[Nazz]

Meh, I like my shooters, good and bloody!?!

I don't like playing with the keyboard or the mouse at all.

Same here, I think the 360's controller is perfect for shooters.

[flameboy118]

nah no substitute for mouse and keyboard- if you went online on pc with a 360 controller you would get OWNED

[Nintengod]

nah no substitute for mouse and keyboard- if you went online on pc with a 360 controller you would get OWNED

Seriously, talk like a normal human being, and stop saying things like "noob" and "owned". Don't be a social outcast, it will only hold you back.

As for first person shooters.....I read on a review for Metroid Prime 3 than the Nunchuck and Wiimote is the closest thing you can get to a keyboard mouse combo for accuracy.

[freezeflamer]

Jesus Christ man.

This is a review thread - Nin posted a review for SMG - Flame, Nin, Punk, let's stop the arguing here. Sorry everyone - but I can see these debates going on forever - why don't you lot argue somewhere else.

Everyone else, sorry to be a spoil sport. :(

[Shooting Palanx]

I think a debate is just what this place needs, yet we should try and stay on topic, so how about we open this thread, and discuss :p

[freezeflamer]

I think a debate is just what this place needs, yet we should try and stay on topic, so how about we open this thread, and discuss :p

OK, if you say it's cool. It's cool.

[squirrelman766]

I also feel that it deserves a 10/10 rating.

[Shooting Palanx]

OK, if you say it's cool. It's cool.

Wow, you didn't resist at all, thank you for not doing so :p

Anyways, why do you think it deserves that rating squirrel?

[jay30]

The screenshots make no difference - the game looks great in those screenshots, and in reality, and is designed by the best games designer in the business. SMG is wonderful and makes any 360 or PS3 game seem irrelevant. As soon as you picked on the graphics, it showed how shallow and nitpicky you were about it. The PS3 and 360 could only dream a title of this calibre coming to that platform.

I don't know why you feel insulted, i implied you were a fanboy - its hardly an innaccurate statement.



the screenshots do make a slight change:rolleyes: