The best games of all time??

[flameboy118]

I was just going to invite discussion about what the best games of all time are- maybe if I hear some new ones I can get them.

I would say Sid Meier's Pirates!, Starcraft, Ocarina, Half Lifes, Metroid Prime, Chrono Trigger/Cross....

Any thoughts?

[Punkster]

half life 2. it was a bloody amazing game for its time... still is! way better than crysis. at least half life 2 doesn't require a behemoth of a PC to run at max settings and HF2 still looks brill by today's standards.

[MurdersGalore]

ahahaha...half life 2 isn't THAT old.

"You kids with your loud music and your Dan Fogelberg, your Zima, Hoola-Hoops, and Pac-Man video games......Don't you see? People today have attention spans that can only be measured in nanoseconds."

[MurdersGalore]

Oh...best games of all time aye?

I gotta go with the original "Gran Turismo". I spent a great deal of my life on that game. Still my favorite out of the series.

[DEADMORT]

I was just going to invite discussion about what the best games of all time are- maybe if I hear some new ones I can get them.

I would say Sid Meier's Pirates!, Starcraft, Ocarina, Half Lifes, Metroid Prime, Chrono Trigger/Cross....

Any thoughts?

Pirates? i thought i was the only one that loved that game... i still have the nes version somewhere...

The best game i've played was Final Fantasy 7, it left a huge hole in my life after i completed that :(

also i think that Zelda - A Link to the past should be in the running.

[halo-fan-4ever]

in order of greatness:

sonic: sega mega drive
halo combat evolved: pc /xbox
tekken (all of them): ps1 / ps2 / psp
quake (all of them): pc
cs 1.6: pc

theres tones more but not as good as those ones

[flameboy118]

No Half Life 2 isn't *that* old...... Four years now but the system requirements aren't far from some modern games like... well certainly Sins of a Solar Empire or Gal Civ.

Crysis? What's wrong with Crysis, I love that game..... But can some more people please go online? (lol)

'Pirates? i thought i was the only one that loved that game... i still have the nes version somewhere... '
(sorry can't quote properly)
Nope apparently there's two of us.... I love that game

You mention Sonic the Hedghog but actually I never did like *any* sonic games.... Just didn't get 'em..... Nobody else like Chrono Cross/Trigger>

[jpph]

the greatest games that i have played are:
gta san andreas, truly groundbreaking and massive
mafia, which is just awesome and epic
max payne 2, bullet time just doesnt get old!
the hitman series, they may not be utterly amazing and groundbreaking but they are still superb and theres not many like them

havent played hl2 yet!
btw talking of max payne 2 has anyone here done any modding on it? i cant figure out how

[Punkster]

crysis is a good game, but for what it's worth, i.e. spending money on a powerful enough PC and tweaking the settings until you finally get it running at its best, i don't think it's that good.

Half Life 2 for instance is proof that you don't need a really powerful PC to get good looking graphics. and it has very good gameplay and the best tool ever; the gravity gun! i've tried the demo for crysis and was a bit disappointed with it, felt like any other shooter, just with a couple of gimmicks here and there such as the nanosuit and being able to grab people by the throat and throwing them around.

other than that, i can play a similar shooter, and not have to worry about getting a good enough PC, on the X360, or fun multiplayer shooters such as the Battlefield series on the PC which also don't require an uber PC.

[flameboy118]

lol jpph theres a bit of a theme in those games really... gta, mafia, max payne.... and no i havent modded it

yeah half life 2 is incredible, I would argue that as much as anybody. At the time you would need a highnd pc though.... any four-year- old game is going to be easy to run

crysis really isn't just like any other shooter with added gimmicks its *so* much more.... It pushes the boundary in bother graphics and gameplay, tonnes of user content, but the best thing is how sandbox it is. Whereas on cod4 you run down a pre-set path, enemies pop up across the room the second you cross a specific trigger line (actually can be quite laughable) and then you kill them, while they respawn, for a set time before moving on. Crysis plonks you on a *huge* island and lets you go about things however you like- theres just so much freedom- its incredible and really can't be described in words..... The graphics are used very well- lots of long distance views of the island.... And while if you don't have a new pc an upgrade will be a lot, I would say that if you like pc fps's (e.g. Half Life 2) it is worth it upgrading now rather than in a year.

[MurdersGalore]

Crysis is a good game because it's a beautiful game. You can play it with most of the eye candy off and it still is very impressive to look at. But still, IMO, its not the greatest when you are talking about sheer gameplay. The nanosuit idea is cool and has potential for some great strategy. Too bad that the game rarely requires use of that strategy. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the game, but it does have it's flaws. My opinion is that HL2 is an all around better game then Crysis. HL2 isn't as impressive to look at but it is by no means weak in the visuals department.
When it comes down next-gen FPS games though, I would have to choose Bioshock as the greatest. It has a unique twist to the story line, impressive visuals as well as a neat little nod to RPG elements.

[Punkster]

Half life 2 also has the most varied environments. hardly any part the surroundings are repeated. someone said that they found half life 2 repetitive; they must be crazy; this is the most varied action/shooter i've played. a repetitive game would be assassin's creed or Halo 1 with it's extremely repetitive level design.

[MurdersGalore]

Well, I can see that point also. The nature of all FPS games is repetitive by default. When is comes down to it you are really just finding enemies, killing them, searching for weapons or health, wash rinse repeat. HL2 is perhaps not as repetitive as most. There really isn't much that can be done to expand on the FPS platform without venturing into other genres.

[flameboy118]

I do have to agree that HL2 is better than Crysis- believe me when I say that I have spent time arguing for it. It has the best level design to date, varied gameplay, great characters, a gravity gun and fantastic shooting. Both HL2 and Crysis are stunning for their time, HL2 is just a littlolder.

Bioshock as the best fps? Hmm. Well yes and no really. I loved the twist and the environment, and the gameplay is better than people give it credit for, but if, like me, you are *truly* harcore (lol) and played System Shock 2 and Deus Ex, Bioshock feels like a bit of a letdown. It promises so much in terms of fpsrpg gameplay, with some great customisation, but you never really need it (stupid Vita Chambers) and its not close to being as fleshed out as SS2 or Deux Ex. Its a great game in its own right but for the wrong reasons- it feels dumbed down for console kids.

Back to Crysis I just have to disagree that it doesn't do well in the gameplay department.... It pushes the envelope in every way with the most open and thrilling gameplay yet.

MGS games anyone?

[MurdersGalore]

I never played System Shock so I guess I am judging it drom a fresh standpoint. My experience with Bioshock though is basically that the day I got it...I played it.....and played it...until I finished it with few interruptions. With HL2 and Crysis....I felt the need to take breaks. lol

[flameboy118]

Actually I totally agree with playing and playing Bioshock- that is one thing, I beat it in one go first time, and in three days second time. Did you kill the little sisters? I couldn't bring myself to kill them, even though I tried lol.

System Shock 2 is remarkabely similar- different setting, but same story, and everything in Bioshock has a counterpart in SS2 (e.g. Hybrids are splicirs- both are humans gone wrong and talk to you weirdly, Vita Chambers are bioregeneration chamgers, health hypos are health hypos, plasmids are psy powers, Shodan is Fontaine etc)

[Bleach]

My favourite PC game would have to be Total Annihilation, It's old but it's a classic.

[MurdersGalore]

Did you kill the little sisters? I couldn't bring myself to kill them, even though I tried lol.
Yeah...first time around I only killed one....if you kill more then two you get an alternate ending. There is also a third ending that I have yet to see...but you have to kill them all to see it.

[Punkster]

i think the words "sand-box" style gameplay are misused with Crysis. i tried the demo and it felt quite linear to me; just like any other shooter. there's only a certain number of ways of killing the enemy. creeping up slowly and shooting the hell out of them, or charging straight up to them and shooting the hell out of them.

if you want a true "sand-box" style game, then GTA is the answer, not crysis.

[flameboy118]

Oooh I couldn't disagree more.... The demo is not representative of the game, Crysis is *not* linear.

GTA, sure you can go anywhere, but upon doing a shooting mission, your only option is to kill, straight forward, and it plays the same way everytime. Remember, GTA missions are *very* scripted, Crysis is not

Crysis, you can approach anything however you like like no other game since Farcry.... You can attack from 360 degrees, and, unlike a very scripted fps eg cod4, you can do *whatever* you like.

I thinkit comes down to definitions of sandbox really. If it means, you can go anywhere and run people over, the GTA is the answer. But if it means being able to approach the gameplay from any angle, something which improves gameplay, it is Crysis.

[Punkster]

true that the missions are quite scripted in GTA, but i think Crysis is as well.

when i read reviews about the game, i was expecting to have complete free roam of this amazing looking island. and korean troops would just be randomly placed around the island and you'd have to gradually fight your way to the centre of the island using any route you wanted.

and there would be no levels or missions, until you get to the centre where perhaps you'd just have to kill one boss. it'd be more interesting in this way. coz it forces the player to stick to the jungle like a real lone soldier would in that situation, even if he did have that uber nanosuit. and you'd have to sneak around a lot, watching for soldiers to walk out of sight of others and quietly taking them out, or if you really wanted to, you could go all guns ablaze or steal a tank and blast your way through everything.

this is what i expected from the game, when i read reviews of how the "sand-box" style of gameplay was implemented into the game. coz i associate GTA with "sand-box" style gameplay, which was why i expected it to be complete free-roam and that got me all excited about the game, until i realized it was quite linear like most shooters.

crysis is a good shooter, but i don't think the high system requirements are justified. although you can argue that gameplay is more important, i tried this game with lower settings and it affects the gameplay, especially when you're driving, as textures of rocks are delayed as they appear only when you get close. so it ends up with you driving into rocks a lot, as i did.

[Drabus]

The singular best game I have ever played is World of Warcraft.
Sadly, it takes FAR too much time to be competitive, and thus is its prime flaw: if you have a life, you can't be competitive in it. (I had no life for about two years with it, then I quit last July).
I haven't played HL2, Crisis, or just about any of the newer games. D2 was definitely a classic and still is. Once I get a new laptop that can run most of the new things, I'll be in business to try them.

[MurdersGalore]

Sandbox gameplay is just a marketing buzzword. Really all it means is that you are free to explore this computer generated world so long as you dont care to make progress in the game. All "sandbox" games are like this.

[Punkster]

Sandbox gameplay is just a marketing buzzword. Really all it means is that you are free to explore this computer generated world so long as you dont care to make progress in the game. All "sandbox" games are like this.

which is why i think it is mis-used with farcry and even more so with crysis. coz you don't even get complete free-roam when you're not playing the missions.

[flameboy118]

Well I think sandbox can be either description- go anywhere and kill stuff, or be given specific targets which you can approach any way you like.

I'm not sure wat the demo of Crysis is like but it doesn't seem to bmuch like the rest of the game by the sounds of it. It does rely on the graphics a little (fine by me- run it on high) because its great to just look across the island e.g. at sunrise.

To be honest though, Crysis has *triggers* but not scripts, for the most part. That means that whe you, for example reach a terminal and download some data, it triggers a new objective and some audio. But for getting to the terminal, unlike in COD4, there no 'when you cross this line the enemies appear', they're there from the start (you can see them from across the island). It relys completely on ai scripts, not story scripts, which are completely reactive to how you play the game, whereas story scripts happen exactly the same everytime.

A lot of people seem to have gotten the impression that Crysis is just a good shooter with great graphics, but I have to disagree. Look at the gamespot review (am I allowed to do this?), they gave it a 9.5 and said that 'Crysis is visually stunning, packed with intelligent, thrilling gameplay, and easily one of the greatest shooters ever made.' Nuff said

[gamer_boy]

Gears of War, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Crysis and Sins of a Solar Empire are the all my fav games...................:D

[flameboy118]

Yay somebody else picked Crysis!
also i was pretty sure i was the only one to have played sins of a solar empire, its really good

gears of war and cod4 though? and all those games are recent, have you not played any older games?

[MurdersGalore]

Im not saying Crysis isn't a great game...I don't think anyone else is either. The thread is titled "The best games of all time" so if Crysis blew it wouldn't be mentioned. There is always areas to improve on with any game. If there was such a thing as a perfect game then there would be no need for other games in that genre. If Crysis was perfect we would all be playing Crysis. Every game has flaws.

On another note, I just got my issue of Game Informer for the month and they gave GTA IV a 10. Can't wait for it to be released on PC. If they don't do it before long I may be forced to buy a console.

[flameboy118]

Lol- forced to buya console.... I like that. GTA IV got 10s everywhere if yu haven't noticed

Sorry about the crysis rants.... its just underappreciated because nobody can run it lol

[Punkster]

Lol- forced to buya console.... I like that. GTA IV got 10s everywhere if yu haven't noticed

Sorry about the crysis rants.... its just underappreciated because nobody can run it lol

which is why games developers should focus on keeping the system requirements as low as possible imo. if the system requirements wasn't so frikking high for Crysis, i'd probably play it all the way through, but it sucks on my PC. too low a frame rate, looks pretty crap on low setting and the texture pop-up affects the gameplay significantly.

and i have a weak CPU, so i can't blow up buildings as i have to turn down the physics setting as well., which again affects the gameplay. the high system requirements are not justified. there are hardly any other modern games which require a behemoth of a machine.

[flameboy118]

Yeat its ok for me cos my laptop is great.....
World In Conflicts are quite high, and GRIDs are awfully high considering it dont look great

[MurdersGalore]

Though the specs to run Crysis at full steam seem high now.....give it another year. It was the same way when Doom 3 was released. Doom 3 was another one of those games that everyone was trying like hell to get their machines to run. Seems the PC game industry has to have a game like this once every couple of years just to show off their coding testicles. Makes sense really...as you cant really do that for consoles because everyone with a console has the same specs as everyone else. Making games like Crysis appeals to the PC tweaking end of the gamer's spectrum. Those kinda guys who constantly go for higher 3dmark scores and such. The fact that you need a fast PC to run it becomes part of it's charm in the geek/benchmarking/Pc tweaking world. You can say "yo dude I got this new dell" and they are the guys that will say "cool, but mine can run Crysis with full blah blah and blah blah resolution....can your new dell do that?"
Think about this also...do you think Crysis would have generated as much buzz if the specs called for an average PC?

[Punkster]

Those kinda guys who constantly go for higher 3dmark scores and such. The fact that you need a fast PC to run it becomes part of it's charm in the geek/benchmarking/Pc tweaking world. You can say "yo dude I got this new dell" and they are the guys that will say "cool, but mine can run Crysis with full blah blah and blah blah resolution....can your new dell do that?"

haha, that's so true. some gaming PC owners care more about the power of their rig than actually having fun playing a game.

[MurdersGalore]

Yeah...I like my PC. It's fast. Not the fastest......but fast enough. If I have the cash to shell out for a nice video card every couple of years that's fine. What I can't fathom are those people who will buy a new video card every other month. You'll see them in certain forums saying **** like "yeah dude..I had to get rid of that 756mb 8800gtx for a 756mb 8800ultra. My 3dmark score went up 20 points....and now instead of running HL2 at only 113fps I can now hit 115fps...sometimes 117 LOL"
I would find it totally pointless for myself to upgrade from my 8800gt to an ultra....hell...I don't think I will upgrade again until whatever comes after the 9 series.

[Punkster]

I would find it totally pointless for myself to upgrade from my 8800gt to an ultra....hell...I don't think I will upgrade again until whatever comes after the 9 series.

so you're not gona get 8800GT ever, even when it goes down in price? it's a brilliant card for the money, from what i've heard. you could say it's double the performance of an 8600GT.

[flameboy118]

Yeah I reckon games like Crysis and Doom 3 are partially to sell new hardware- if you look on any of the high end pc sites, it always advertises Crysis, which, of course wouldn't have got as much buzz with lower requirements. I think good graphcs, while not affecting the gameplay much, do sell more games.

[MurdersGalore]

Punkster...you misread. I already have an 8800gt. I was saying that I wouldn't go from an 8800gt to an 8800ultra.

[Punkster]

Punkster...you misread. I already have an 8800gt. I was saying that I wouldn't go from an 8800gt to an 8800ultra.

oh right, sorry, i mistook you for HaloFan-what's-his-name. he bought an 8600GT and i thought he was you.

[MurdersGalore]

no harm no foul

[flameboy118]

I have 2 8800gt's in sli..... I reckon its better value than one 8800gtx (or ultra).

If you want to upgrade, but don't want to pay for an ultra, get another 8800gt and hook it up in sli....

[Rykstar1]

its gotta be Grand Theft Auto, its just such a wicked game-you dont have to do missions, you can just lay about shooting killing and nicking things in general

[The Popper]

Definately GTA3 :D It's the only game I have completed to 100% and still enjoy playing 8 years later.

[MurdersGalore]

If you want to upgrade, but don't want to pay for an ultra, get another 8800gt and hook it up in sli....

My system is getting old. Back when I built it Socket 939 was the thing...SLI motherboards were a tad pricey and I was on a budget. I had thought about getting an SLI 939 board and another 7950gt before I got the 8800gt, but socket 939 boards are getting scarce and another 7950gt would have actually cost a little more then an 8800gt. Since performance would have been on par with a 7950gx2 and the 8800gt outperforms the 7950gx2 it was a pretty easy choice to make.
I prefer 1 powerful card as opposed to 2 mid level cards in SLI. It's alot more simple and takes less power. I'll be building a new system in a year or two anyway.

[flameboy118]

Fair enough.... My psu is pretty good and can take it.

yeah in your case one card is better..... Thats because the 8800gt is great value, as I've gone with 2 8800gts, it just seems that theyre great value....

[MurdersGalore]

Indeed the 8800 cards are the **** and probably will be viable for a long time. The 8800gt is the first time a card of it's ilk has ever been available at a mid level price. There are still some old back stock 7 series cards out there that can't even be sold at the price of the 8800gt. Even considering the 8600gt....hell....that's a mid-high performing card for an entry level price. Funny thing is we have ATI to thank for it. The neck and neck competition between nVidia and ATI up until the AMD buyout has really forced nVidia to up their game. I really hope ATI makes a comeback this year. This type of competition is the reason why these companies give us such great products.

Oh ****...we are totally hijacking this thread. lol

its gotta be Grand Theft Auto, its just such a wicked game-you dont have to do missions, you can just lay about shooting killing and nicking things in general

Oh yes...how could I have forgotten the GTA franchise. GTA3 was the reason why I bought a PS2. I played it at a friends house a few weeks after it's release and I just had to have it.

[Capital_Cougar7]

Well since this is the PC section, I have to say Diablo 2 LOD takes it all for me.

[bachizone]

Counter Strike

Haha Classic !

Any ***** that didnt play CS ever in their life . STEP UP

NOBODY !

THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER

[Punkster]

Half Life 2: The Orange Box.... dunno if it count as a game on its own. it's more like a collection of good games. the only one i'm not too keen on is Team Fortress 2, but I haven't realy given it a proper chance yet to grow on me.

I'm playing the Orange Box now and I'm loving it. Right now i'm playing Episode 1, the part where it's pitch black, you can only see by torchlight and you're surrounded by zombies. the atmosphere is so damn spooky, even when there aren't flesh-eating zombies trying to rip you apart.

when i complete this game, I think i'll write a review of it, coz i love it so much.

[flameboy118]

I respect the Orange Box... in terms of GOTY last year, I would say Orange Box, but it isn't really a viable candidate. Half Life 2 stands as the best shooter ever for me....

Yeah I know *exactly* where you mean.... its like an underground section of car park, there are zombies with grenades..... Great game.

<quote>Oh ****...we are totally hijacking this thread. lol</quote>

Lol indeed we were.... But I started the thread so I guess its acceptable.

<quote>Counter Strike

Haha Classic !

Any ***** that didnt play CS ever in their life . STEP UP

NOBODY !

THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER</quote>

Lol I played some cs 1.6 yesterday... got pwned.

[Gamer king (a title)]

PainKiller, all games shy in comparison to a game that has a gun that fires LIGHTING SHURIKENS, mwa ha ha haaa.

[flameboy118]

Lol the steak gun..... Painkiller ftw- it was better than Doom 3 and Quake 4, which were bigger games

[MurdersGalore]

Doom 3 was a boring game. I've had it since it came out and I have never actually finished it. After I got past the visuals the game itself was really bland.

[Punkster]

i've watched a speedrun of Doom 3 and my gosh the person who did it was so good, he knew where every single creature would pop up and killed it before you could even see it properly... and he was running at super speed.

(in case you don't know or haven't worked out, a speedrun is when you try to complete a game in the fastest time possible.)

also the game looked incredibly repetitive and very long. although it took the guy only an hour or so to complete, it takes the average player about 20 hours to complete it, i think. and it's nearly all just a corridor crawl. not much variation. i suppose you get used to the scary atmosphere after a while and find it predictable when a monster is going to suddenly appear.

[badelad@hotmail.co.uk]

Wow!!
How the hell did he do that??
Is there a cheat type way to go where you shoot through the game or something?
I still havant botherd to complete it. Great game for a while but didnt keep me going to the end. Still got resurection add on not played.
Best game of al time.... god its impossable.

[Punkster]

Wow!!
How the hell did he do that??
Is there a cheat type way to go where you shoot through the game or something?

i've no idea if he/she used cheats or not, as i didn't watch it all properly.

>>here's<< (http://speeddemosarchive.com/Doom3.html) the link to the speed run video if you want to find out. and yeah, i was right that it does say he/she did it in 1 hr 10 min.

if you read the posts, they talk about ways of improving their times by a matter of seconds! that's how fast they are at completing levels!

[MurdersGalore]

Lets not forget Guitar Hero

[flameboy118]

Guitar Hero? Really? I like it, and can 5 star through the fire and flames on expert, but is it one of the best games ever? Its pretty repetitive

and yeah as i said, doom 3 wasnt great. chronicles of rid**** escape from butch bay was better, as was Quake 4 and painkiller...... lol serious sam 2 ftw as well

nobody else likes sid meier's pirates (try the 04 remake)

[MurdersGalore]

Guitar Hero 3 has been in the top ten in sales since it's release so that must say something.

[MurdersGalore]

and yeah as i said, doom 3 wasnt great.

And I'll say it wasn't even Good lol.

[flameboy118]

lol
umm you know what's the most consistenty high in sales? Wii play. That mean that thats good as well?? Assassisins creed outsold galaxy.... better game? fifa outsells everything.... that make it good?? see what im saying

[MurdersGalore]

To a Point....It is unfair for them to put games that sell with consoles in the list and things like that...but also a game wouldn't sell if it sucked.

[flameboy118]

a game wouldnt sell well if it sucked? fifa sucks, sells well. guitar heroes not bad, not the best game ever, i would say. plus its being outdone by rock band now

[jpph]

lol jpph theres a bit of a theme in those games really... gta, mafia, max payne.... and no i havent modded it

lol, meaning what? i cant really think of anything they have in common apart from they're 3rd person (i love third person).

[flameboy118]

if i remember, gta, mafia and max payne. well gta and mafia are really the only two open world crime action games, and max payne is quite similar- OTT third person, ultraviolent action. all great games, all very similar. weird, cant find your original post :(

lol i thought tis post was dead and buried

[fusionx449]

for the PC eitehr half life 2 orange box (portal ftw) or crysis

[flameboy118]

for the PC eitehr half life 2 orange box (portal ftw) or crysis

yay good choices! wanna chuck in a little company of heroes and world in conflict? orange box and crysis are the fpss, those two are the rtss

obviously though, anything by sid meier and anything blizzard (or indeed anything valve or crytek as you say) are awesome

[DEAMON_5]

you've probely heard this already but:
Monster hunter freedom 2! all the way!

[flameboy118]

lol

nope not had that one
thats a psp game right?

[DEAMON_5]

yes yesyesyes:)

[flameboy118]

lol very big in japan

monster hunter 3 is on wii, isnt it (not ps3)

[DEAMON_5]

yeah I think so :( ...

[Hapsmo_911]

RVS, Rogue Spear, Duke Nukem, BF1942

Theres tone more, but these stick out as games I played for hours.

[flameboy118]

rvs? i take it you mean rsv, rainbow six vegas? yeah actually i didnt like that, but everybody else did. duke nuken 3d is awesome- its time to kick ass and chew bubblegum- im all out of gum

bf1942 is great, try bf2 its even better!

[Punkster]

i liked the single player to rainbow six vegas. i thought it was fun being able to kick your squad around telling them to go where ever you want whilst you can technically not fire a single bullet and probably still complete the game whilst your squad mates do all the shooting and you just take cover.

i was actually forced to do so, because i played on my PC and i had frame rate problems so my AI squad mates were actually better at shooting enemies than me!

[flameboy118]

lol. I always like to go it alone single player- it is fun telling them to fastrope, but sometimes they shoot people before me and i get annoyed.... lol. yeah the pc version was REALLY choppy even on a good pc

[Chaseung]

Best Games Of All Time

#1: Metroid Prime 3 Corruption
#2: Sega Superstars Tennis
#3: Command & Conquer Tiberium Wars 3
#4: " " " Generals Zero Hour
#5: Mario Strikers Charged Football

Ratings:-

#1: 10/10
#2: 9/10
#3: 8.5/10
#4: 8/10
#5: 7.5/10

[Hydrox]

It's all about Counter-Strike. 10/10

[flameboy118]

yay counter strike!

Best Games Of All Time

#1: Metroid Prime 3 Corruption
#2: Sega Superstars Tennis
#3: Command & Conquer Tiberium Wars 3
#4: " " " Generals Zero Hour
#5: Mario Strikers Charged Football

Ratings:-

#1: 10/10
#2: 9/10
#3: 8.5/10
#4: 8/10
#5: 7.5/10

loving the command and conquer games in there, but metroid prime *3*? not 1 (or even 2). and sega superstars tennis? its just a dummed down version of virtua tennis 3. mario strikers also?

[solidsteel]

half-life1 &2
counter strike 1.6
counter strike source
day of defeat
gmod
team fortress 2

[GamerJoe]

Tekken 4 - MGS 1 ,3 - COD4 - Prince of persia (amiga version) - GTA SERIES - C&C Series - bf1942 - bf2 -(Star wars galaxies 4 years of my life lmao)

[levperlman]

Mass effect. It's the best RPG I have ever played. Free-for-all action, you can do whatever you want in the galaxy, or you can do missions. It's a very good game i think...

[halo-fan-4ever]

oh right, sorry, i mistook you for HaloFan-what's-his-name. he bought an 8600GT and i thought he was you.

lol halofan-whats-his-name?????

[Arrk-Mancer]

Another one of these threads.

How many more are going to be created.


1 - Age Of Empires 2 (Gold Edition)
2 - Raptor: Call Of The Shadows
3 - Diablo 2: Lord Of Destruction
4 - Warhammer 40k: Dawn Of War

Thats it.

[flameboy118]

raptor? havent heard of that.... might try to find it

oh and @levperlman: mass effect? i hated it but everyone loves it

[Arrk-Mancer]

Raptor is brilliant it fits my personality in so many ways.

Cheap thrills and it is still shareware (My mistake but damn that still selling) and the graphics are quite good despite its age of 14 its also quite hard so it becomes addictive.

14 years and still going that must be popular.

P.S If you want to download the full version of the over extroadiary Raptor: Call Of The Shadows try torrents.

[flameboy118]

oh my!! is that piracy you're suggesting!!??

[fusionx449]

for the PC...either DIablo 2 or crysis!!!

[flameboy118]

not just for the pc... i just put it there originally and it never got moved

i love crysis (another game i argue with nin over) but i never played d2... only the first one- better reviewed. but literally half the people have said d2 is their fav game in this thread- better play it.

[Nintengod]

i love crysis (another game i argue with nin over) but i never played d2... only the first one- better reviewed. but literally half the people have said d2 is their fav game in this thread- better play it.

Another criminally overrated game you like.

Think we need to face facts here.....your taste in video games is rubbish. You are bowled over by glitz and hype.

[fusionx449]

yea diablo 2 is very good..started playing it when i was 11 or so and still play it today..and i still got my first character from back then :D..

crysis i personally like because it showed what the PC is actually capable of!

[mastachief]

A few Zeldas,Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, Beyond Good and Evil, SSBM, Mario 64, DK 64

[Lennx]

My best game ever is Infernal, did you heard for it?

[Arrk-Mancer]

@ Flameboy118 Piracy is to popular and big to be stopped nowadays so i doubt anyone would care.

[flameboy118]

lol..... i just never thought anyone would recommend it to me... is raptor the flying game (as in the F22 raptop plane??)

and no im not gonna like report you lol.... becuase im sure theres a law against saying torrenting is a good way to get a game....

[Bondosan]

Half-Life is the shiznit. The multiplayer's still fun to play, too.

[flameboy118]

what, counter strike?

[Arrk-Mancer]

The view is Aeriel so its hard to figure out what any plane is nevertheless if its called Raptor it is no doubt a F22 by the looks of it at the end of every wave you get a side shot of the plane unless you die ofcourse.

[flameboy118]

this one? http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/sim/f22raptor/index.html?tag=result;title;0

[Arrk-Mancer]

Wrong game right plane.

[flameboy118]

ok....

anyway, the best game i ever played? MGS4

[Arrk-Mancer]

If your wondering how big the full game is its tiny about 4 megabytes and working with XP even though it was made for 95 & 98 (Obviously not the newer version of 98 because that wasnt made 14 years ago) but still its spectacular.

Wait a minute i just realized something it was released on april 1st the game might be a joke...... Damn i hope not.

[flameboy118]

lol..... a joke? anyway, il try to check the game out, but i cant seem to find it.....

[Arrk-Mancer]

Type in your search engine Raptor Call Of The Shadows it will show up on several websites.

[Devilman]

My favorite game is probably Assassin's Creed. It's awesome to just run about the city rooftops dodging archers and climbing towers. Can't wait for the second.

[Nintengod]

Best games ever (no order):

Mario Kart - SNES
Speedball 2 - AMIGA 500
Ocarina of Time - N64
Link to the Past - SNES
Mario World - SNES
Mario 64 - N64
Half Life - PC
Dungeon Keeper - PC
Metal Gear Solid 1 - PS1/Gamecube
Sim City 2000 - PC
Mario Galaxy - WII
Final Fantasy VI - SNES
Final Fantasy VII - PS1
Resident Evil 4 - Gamecube
Monkey Island - AMIGA
Maniac Mansion/Day of the Tentacle - Amiga/PC

and so many more!!

[flameboy118]

fair enough.. but a distinct lack of starcraft and pirates!!! lol
some good games there though. maybe a little heavy on the mario.. oh and sim city 2000... i remember that. got it in a pack with settlers 2 and civ 2... good times

[Nintengod]

fair enough.. but a distinct lack of starcraft and pirates!!! lol
some good games there though. maybe a little heavy on the mario.. oh and sim city 2000... i remember that. got it in a pack with settlers 2 and civ 2... good times

Pirates on the Amiga would be a contender. I found the 2004 update a little disappointing. Sure its still good old "Pirates".....but it wasn't the kind of evolution i'd expect considering Pirates came out in the late 1980s and this came out in 2004!!! So they added ballroom dancing - come on, I wanted a lot more than that!!!

Starcraft is a game I did look at getting recently, as well as Deus Ex which is another much-respected title.

Edit : As for being heavy on Mario.....not really, those games are amongst the greatest games ever made, and recognised for being so. I really feel bad for forgetting to mention the awesome Mario Bros 3 and original Mario Bros, which still stand up today as being gaming legends.

[flameboy118]

yeah, starcraft and deux ex are both great. and fine about the mario. tbh (as you well know) im not old enough to remember the 1987 pirates, so i only knew the 2004. it doesnt really seem to add anything, but its a credit to the original game that basically the same thing stands up so well in 04. tbh with the choice of the 87 or the 04 you would choose the 04, even if its not nearly as good for its time... also, not being used to DOS games of the late 80s, i found the 87 version a little difficult to figure out....

[motiveight]

Half Life,
Deus Ex,
Max Payne

oh and Stars! [haha I wonder if anyone knows that one]

[flameboy118]

nice ones stig... nice.

[kima82]

Best games for me are: Red alert2 -strategie
Farcry - fps
nfs porshe - drive
sonic 3d - platform

[Nintengod]

yeah, starcraft and deux ex are both great. and fine about the mario. tbh (as you well know) im not old enough to remember the 1987 pirates, so i only knew the 2004. it doesnt really seem to add anything, but its a credit to the original game that basically the same thing stands up so well in 04. tbh with the choice of the 87 or the 04 you would choose the 04, even if its not nearly as good for its time... also, not being used to DOS games of the late 80s, i found the 87 version a little difficult to figure out....

I own both Pirates from 1987 (on the Amiga), and the Xbox 2004 version.....and the Amiga version is more playable. The Xbox version is still decent, as its based on the original, just with a 3D engine.....but sometimes, it doesn't always work perfectly. The Amiga joystick, the fact loading times are non-existent, the difficulty level.....all better on the original.

Pirates is a game that simply never dates, as its addictive and playable. Great games remain great games, just as classic movies remain great.

In terms of you using the DOS version.....well PC's back in those days weren't really gaming machines. That time was dominated by the Amiga really which was a graphical and audio powerhouse. Amiga emulation is nigh on perfect these days.....so its worth trying that if you're a fan of the "Pirates" games.

[flameboy118]

i have both the DOS and 2004, and to be fair the 2004 pc version is supposed to be much better than the xbox version. and yeah, the amiga original is meant to be better than the DOS version. either way fantastic game, and i love all sid meier games

amiga emulation is hard to get right- v complex with all the different models etc. managed it with speedball 2 though (just)

[Nintengod]

amiga emulation is hard to get right- v complex with all the different models etc. managed it with speedball 2 though (just)

I can point you in the direction of a very effective and simple Amiga emulator, with a great user-friendly front end. Emulators can be ropey, but in my mind, the Amiga emulator I use is as good as it gets. PM me if you want for some links.

Going back to Pirates, and the 2004 edition. Yes, the PC version is mean't to be slightly better overall. The Xbox version suffered from slowdown which is surprising as its hardly a processor hungry game.......the only other differences though between that and the PC version is that the map is much larger on the PC....so you end up sailing for longer as a result. This can be a pain if you want to get somewhere and the wind is against you! I believe the Xbox version also had a couple of extra minigames that the PC version didn't, so it balanced it out a little.

I am going to try running my Xbox copy of Pirates on my 360 today, and see if there are any improvements with framerate. Although I guess it could be worse.....

[flameboy118]

lol... which amiga emulator? i use one with a random name, starting with WINUAE.

anyway, im sure the original pirates is better- its the same game but 17 years earlier, so for its time it must be so much better (which is why the 04 version averaging over 9 makes the game so amazing) but not being used to games that early it can be a little unexplained for me- i find it a little hard to digest. plus you cant see ships on the overworld, can you?

oh PM on its way btw.. which may or may not continue to advertise me for the review team ;)

EDIT: oh and just to chuck some more games into the fray, my list would be:

ocarina
crysis
half life 1&2
chrono trigger/cross
final fantasy 7/10
starcraft
pirates!
diabo 1&2
neverwinter nights 2
metroid prime (the first one)
link to the past
bionic commando
prince of persia (original)
baldurs gate 2
planescape: torment
civilizations 2-4
alpha centari
etc
etc

more recent stuff would be galaxy, bioshock and crysis

[Nintengod]

lol... which amiga emulator? i use one with a random name, starting with WINUAE.

anyway, im sure the original pirates is better- its the same game but 17 years earlier, so for its time it must be so much better (which is why the 04 version averaging over 9 makes the game so amazing) but not being used to games that early it can be a little unexplained for me- i find it a little hard to digest. plus you cant see ships on the overworld, can you?

EDIT: oh and just to chuck some more games into the fray, my list would be:

ocarina
crysis
half life 1&2
chrono trigger/cross
final fantasy 7/10
starcraft
pirates!
diabo 1&2
neverwinter nights 2
metroid prime (the first one)
link to the past
bionic commando
prince of persia (original)
baldurs gate 2
planescape: torment
civilizations 2-4
alpha centari
etc
etc

more recent stuff would be galaxy, bioshock and crysis

WINUAE is indeed the Amiga emulation of choice in terms of stability and accuracy.....but its also a tad confusing, especially if you're not used to the Amiga format which you aren't. However, there are frontend software designed for WINUAE which makes WINUAE a total doddle to use. PM me for more info if you want to give it a whirl.

Yea, I really do like Pirates 2004.....as its still the same old Pirates with a few bells and whistles added, but the original on the Amiga is a bit more solid gameplay wise, and despite the age gap, has a better soundtrack! You can't see the ships in the open water in the Amiga version - instead what happens is that your lookout will spot the ship then ask you if you want to investigate further. It's cool and works well.

Looking at that list of games : Yea, Bionic Commando is a classic. I got that game in the late 1980s on tape for my Commodore 64!!!! Loved it, and will definitely get it when it comes back out on Virtual Console (C64 emulators are poor imo).

Prince of Persia is also a superb game. I had the Amiga version (surprise), but in recent years I bought the SNES version. Both awesome and no doubt great on ANY system though.

[flameboy118]

yeah, i do like being able to see the ships, and i know how it works, as i said i have the dos version (something like 'sir, theres a ship on the horizon. Investigate Further? Sail Away?)

but the soundtrack is absolutely fantastic on the 04 version, but i have no point of comparison with the amiga version

[Nintengod]

yeah, i do like being able to see the ships, and i know how it works, as i said i have the dos version (something like 'sir, theres a ship on the horizon. Investigate Further? Sail Away?)

but the soundtrack is absolutely fantastic on the 04 version, but i have no point of comparison with the amiga version

Seeing the other ships adds no value whatsoever, and i'm glad the original didn't have that. The only time you see another ship is if the lookout spots it, and you can then chase them down.

The soundtrack on the 04 version never struck me, where as the Amiga version uses all sorts of classical scores. It's really excellent.

[flameboy118]

really? god, i reckon the 04 soundtrack has one of the best videogame backing tracks ever... one song sticks out. seeing ships on the overworld adds something, so you can chase down baron raymondo etc or if you go into the tavern and the maid says the 'eg Buffet' is going from Antigua to St kitts and has 2000 gold, so you can see it. also it can fit more ships there, and encounters feel less random. might listen to some amiga soundtrack now (PM coming after dinner bout frontend and also review team ;))

[TeddyNamek]

Abes plz.

Lol, i loved Oddworld.

[Nintengod]

really? god, i reckon the 04 soundtrack has one of the best videogame backing tracks ever... one song sticks out. seeing ships on the overworld adds something, so you can chase down baron raymondo etc or if you go into the tavern and the maid says the 'eg Buffet' is going from Antigua to St kitts and has 2000 gold, so you can see it. also it can fit more ships there, and encounters feel less random. might listen to some amiga soundtrack now (PM coming after dinner bout frontend and also review team ;))

Seeing ships on the overworld takes away the entire point of a "lookout"! You have a lookout on a ship to.....look out! The fact you can see the ships, and they are even "labeled" makes it a bit too simple really.

As for the soundtrack for the new version. It's dramatic, and very good.....but it sounds often a bit "Disney" and cheesey at times. You expect to hear this kind of soundtrack for a Disney movie. The original is simplistic, but effective....its string lead, and you'd imagine this is the kind of sound you would have heard from that (pirate) era. The new Pirates sounds like what Hollywood would lead you to believe you would hear in the 17th century!

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Pirates 04, but it lacked the magic and charm of the original, and it doesn't feel as tight or exciting as the original. Still a great game though, think I rated it about 8 or 9/10 on these very forums, but it was always a hugely tough act to follow in the original.

Neither of us have mentioned "Pirates Gold" though, also on the Amiga. That's because it was rubbish.

[Doomed]

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Original Prince of Persia
Metroid Prime
Final Fantasy 7
Ninja Gaiden (Trilogy)
Chrono Trigger
7th Saga

[flameboy118]

Seeing ships on the overworld takes away the entire point of a "lookout"! You have a lookout on a ship to.....look out! The fact you can see the ships, and they are even "labeled" makes it a bit too simple really.

As for the soundtrack for the new version. It's dramatic, and very good.....but it sounds often a bit "Disney" and cheesey at times. You expect to hear this kind of soundtrack for a Disney movie. The original is simplistic, but effective....its string lead, and you'd imagine this is the kind of sound you would have heard from that (pirate) era. The new Pirates sounds like what Hollywood would lead you to believe you would hear in the 17th century!

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Pirates 04, but it lacked the magic and charm of the original, and it doesn't feel as tight or exciting as the original. Still a great game though, think I rated it about 8 or 9/10 on these very forums, but it was always a hugely tough act to follow in the original.

Neither of us have mentioned "Pirates Gold" though, also on the Amiga. That's because it was rubbish.

yeah, i do agree- the new soundtrack is very hollywood, which is part of the reason I love it. guess its just taste

you gave the new one a 7 actually, part of the reason i brought this up. but then that was the dramatically inferior (mwahaha) console version (and yes, i know the amiga version was better than the dos one).

i thought the 04 version had charm to spare, like in the bar brawls when you kick the captain down from the balcony and jump down- awesome! i guess if Id got into the original more than i did at the time (though for me it wasnt 87 (obviously) it was me buying it after loving civ 2) then i would prefer the original, but i didnt so yeah.

can we agree that pirates 2 would be just the best thing ever? i mean, for a game which is effectively about depth (unlike smb for example- not that theres anything wrong with smb, its just that generally its the simple things that stay relevant) to still be fun today is amazing- a second one could have so much more variety, a proper plot, and so so much more, the first one does so much and its 21 years old! imagine what a new one could do! and sid meier isnt going to go all simplicity and flashy graphics over design on us any time soon...

EDIT: and yeah, good choices doomed. i LOVE metroid prime, so im glad someone brought that up. also symphony and chrono trigger are often forgotten, and most people dont know that there was a POP before sands of time! all fantastic awesome games. oh and the original ninja gaidens (i take it you mean), they are great actually and always forgotten. i like that list because except for ff7, none of that is mainstream really. i never heard of 7th saga, so im checking that now.... still a distinct lack of starcraft there though

[jerry105]

EQ may last long time, when I was child, I know him,when I am adult now,EQ2.gamebank.biz@gmail.com

[Flesh420]

DOOM

[Nintengod]

yeah, i do agree- the new soundtrack is very hollywood, which is part of the reason I love it. guess its just taste

you gave the new one a 7 actually, part of the reason i brought this up. but then that was the dramatically inferior (mwahaha) console version (and yes, i know the amiga version was better than the dos one).

i thought the 04 version had charm to spare, like in the bar brawls when you kick the captain down from the balcony and jump down- awesome! i guess if Id got into the original more than i did at the time (though for me it wasnt 87 (obviously) it was me buying it after loving civ 2) then i would prefer the original, but i didnt so yeah.

can we agree that pirates 2 would be just the best thing ever?

The new soundtrack, whilst decent, sounds cheesey, and hollywood sound tracks sound cheesey. They all sound "generic". I prefer a bit of originality. Take films for example....Hollywood film sound tracks are generally rubbish and sound all the same....and then take something like Clockwork Orange, which takes classical songs and revamps them to fit in the Clockwork Orange era. It's just awesome.....and where Pirates 04 went wrong, is that there is nothing to it.

I would have given Sid Meiers Pirates on the PC 7/10 as well. Sure the slowdown of the Xbox version has its annoying moments (although its LESS so when running it on a 360), the new features and map on the Xbox version make up for it. So both are about the same.

The bar brawls are funny, but ultimately repetitive. Doesn't add much to the game, and I certainly don't miss it when i play the original.

Pirates 2 would be a good idea. Perhaps we should design it. I'll be the lead designer, and you make me the coffee. Two sugars please!

[flameboy118]

haha, its like work experience all over again!

bar brawls didnt add anything to be fair, but theyre fun because the animation where your guy kicks the guard captain off the balcony is awesome.

aside from that, to be fair, by your gamerankings system, the pc version is a solid 8% higher than the xbox version, and at 88%, while not the best, is a lot better than your 7/10. also, 88% for an almost unchanged remake of a 17 year old game is pretty unrivaled, so imagine what a new pirates 2 would get.... i think il be the lead designer with my pedigree of my awful original zeldaesque rpgs.....

hollywood music may be generic amoung hollywood, but in he videogame world its pretty rare actually. plus it was just so awesome. name 5 games with hollywood style music....

[Nintengod]

haha, its like work experience all over again!

bar brawls didnt add anything to be fair, but theyre fun because the animation where your guy kicks the guard captain off the balcony is awesome.

aside from that, to be fair, by your gamerankings system, the pc version is a solid 8% higher than the xbox version, and at 88%, while not the best, is a lot better than your 7/10. also, 88% for an almost unchanged remake of a 17 year old game is pretty unrivaled, so imagine what a new pirates 2 would get.... i think il be the lead designer with my pedigree of my awful original zeldaesque rpgs.....

hollywood music may be generic amoung hollywood, but in he videogame world its pretty rare actually. plus it was just so awesome. name 5 games with hollywood style music....

8% higher, but YOU'RE not taking into account that the game was released over a year later on Xbox, so its bound to not feel as fresh. Ultimately, if you read the reviews, they will re-iterate my points.....there are some improvements in the Xbox version (map, multiplayer etc), but its evened out with a little bit of slowdown. You're not going to go wrong either way if you buy them as they are virtually the same.

I'm pretty sure that Unreal Tournament 3 on 360 won't get as high mark as the PS3 version, because it came out much later, despite improvements. Just as Bioshock on PS3 won't garner as high a mark as the 360 version, even though the PS3 version will probably have some improvements. It's all about "the time of release".

7/10 was a fair mark for a game, as it SHOULD have been better, but was still a solid and enjoyable game because it bears so much structure as the original. 88% is rather generous.....but then I think ALL games are overrated. Game scores tend to leave little room for improvement.......and an average game should be 50% not 80%!!! Even you must realise this......

As for the music thing. I seem to remember MGS games having a very hollywood score. I'll come up with some others in due course, and probably say them in the shoutbox. Rare or not, it still sounds cheesey and not really suitable for a game based on 17th century pirates in the caribbean!

[•Aidan•]

i think the best game of all time is battlefield 2.

[flameboy118]

8% higher, but YOU'RE not taking into account that the game was released over a year later on Xbox, so its bound to not feel as fresh. Ultimately, if you read the reviews, they will re-iterate my points.....there are some improvements in the Xbox version (map, multiplayer etc), but its evened out with a little bit of slowdown. You're not going to go wrong either way if you buy them as they are virtually the same.

I'm pretty sure that Unreal Tournament 3 on 360 won't get as high mark as the PS3 version, because it came out much later, despite improvements. Just as Bioshock on PS3 won't garner as high a mark as the 360 version, even though the PS3 version will probably have some improvements. It's all about "the time of release".

7/10 was a fair mark for a game, as it SHOULD have been better, but was still a solid and enjoyable game because it bears so much structure as the original. 88% is rather generous.....but then I think ALL games are overrated. Game scores tend to leave little room for improvement.......and an average game should be 50% not 80%!!! Even you must realise this......

As for the music thing. I seem to remember MGS games having a very hollywood score. I'll come up with some others in due course, and probably say them in the shoutbox. Rare or not, it still sounds cheesey and not really suitable for a game based on 17th century pirates in the caribbean!

over a year later? you need to do some better counting, because december 04 to july 05 isnt over a year. anyway, i can see where this is going, so il drop it, but what I will say is that the 360 version of ut3 wasnt improved- the entire point of ut games is the user content, so missing that is like buying galaxy and finding nothing in the box! but oh wait, there is a slightly better manual (splitscreen) but it doesnt matter because we dont buy games for their manual! but yeah, time of release is important. mgs games music isnt deliberately hollywood, and it is quite distinguishable from any other music. plus pirates and mgs have 2 of the best scores in a game ever (music scores).

and yeah, bf2 was pretty damn good, i loved that game. 210 defribralator kills!

[Nintengod]

over a year later? you need to do some better counting, because december 04 to july 05 isnt over a year. anyway, i can see where this is going, so il drop it, but what I will say is that the 360 version of ut3 wasnt improved- the entire point of ut games is the user content, so missing that is like buying galaxy and finding nothing in the box! but oh wait, there is a slightly better manual (splitscreen) but it doesnt matter because we dont buy games for their manual! but yeah, time of release is important. mgs games music isnt deliberately hollywood, and it is quite distinguishable from any other music. plus pirates and mgs have 2 of the best scores in a game ever (music scores).



Ok, so it was 8 months later (nov-july)....but thats enough time for the "novelty" to wear off on a game, and it did. Again more examples of this would be Halo on PC.....sure it got some improvements over the Xbox original, but scores were LOWER because it came out later, despite having improvements. Games tend to receive lower scores when ported, despite improvements......thats just the way its always been.

There are loads of games with great games scores. I seem to remember Wipeout and its 2097 sequel to have a very memorable soundtrack. At least it was proper music, rather than tacky Hollywood stuff. Lets face it, you wouldn't listen to either MGS soundtrack or Pirates in the car unless you're a geek!!

[flameboy118]

yeah, i dont have about 20 mgs songs on my ipod.... eheh, course not....

yeah yeah, i know about the porting thing, of course games get lower scores when ported. actually, because i love to argue the pc point, while i do fully agree about scores getting lower when ported (except mass effect, the score actually got higher to the pc... gee, i wonder which version was mass(pun not intended)ively superior....) the thing about halo is that it only got the praise it got for being the first proper console shooter. explains why halo 2 on ign went from 9.8 to 7.5 in 2 years, despite a fairly decently improved port- halo 2 was only that good because proper online console fps hadnt been seen before, on pc it had been happening 5 years!

[Nintengod]

yeah, i dont have about 20 mgs songs on my ipod.... eheh, course not....

yeah yeah, i know about the porting thing, of course games get lower scores when ported. actually, because i love to argue the pc point, while i do fully agree about scores getting lower when ported (except mass effect, the score actually got higher to the pc... gee, i wonder which version was mass(pun not intended)ively superior....) the thing about halo is that it only got the praise it got for being the first proper console shooter. explains why halo 2 on ign went from 9.8 to 7.5 in 2 years, despite a fairly decently improved port- halo 2 was only that good because proper online console fps hadnt been seen before, on pc it had been happening 5 years!

*Yawn* you are quite boring and geeky aren't you??? Get used to numbing your left hand for that different feeling on those lonely nights!! :p

[flameboy118]

ooh, Im being insulted again. you remember what happened last time you insulted me?

anyway, yeah im pretty geeky, but why would I use my left hand when ive got a girlfriend anyway?

[Nintengod]

ooh, Im being insulted again. you remember what happened last time you insulted me?

anyway, yeah im pretty geeky, but why would I use my left hand when ive got a girlfriend anyway?

Awww going to tell teacher again?? Yes, i remember last time I insulted you, it was yesterday, and the day before and the day before, and since you joined....and look, I'm still here!! :D Trying to get me banned just makes you look bad and pathetic, but then we already knew that!

Pah, your girlfriend - if she was anything like the last, i'd rather use anyone elses hand!!

[Stevioboi]

Awww going to tell teacher again?? Yes, i remember last time I insulted you, it was yesterday, and the day before and the day before, and since you joined....and look, I'm still here!! :D Trying to get me banned just makes you look bad and pathetic, but then we already knew that!

Pah, your girlfriend - if she was anything like the last, i'd rather use anyone elses hand!!

ok NintenGod ur just jelous us youngsters got gfs while ur 26 with no life no gf and on gaming sites how pathetic GO GET LAID DUDE

[toronto347]

i would go with civilization 4 and all the expansion packs .. is their any new ones coming out?? after beyond the sword??... and cod2 yes old but alot of people play online really fun if u know good people and u in a clan..and system shock 2... omg love that game soo much i would play it over and over again for ever...it was a really kool game but extremly old...

[gamer_boy]

My another fav game is Age of Empires!

[coolmaddy]

Cs Condition zero and Nfs most wanted/carbon :)

[DRG]

HL2 was probably the first game i really loved after playing Goldeneye on the N64, i spent way to much time on that game :)

did anyone ever play Knights and Merchants? :D that game was amazing

[flame.on]

A few games pop into my mind for this and some of them are final fantasy VII through to FFX, age of empires, resident evil, silent hill and starcraft. If i put some more thought into it my list would be huge :D

[deenim]

the greatest games that i have played are:
gta san andreas, truly groundbreaking and massive
mafia, which is just awesome and epic
max payne 2, bullet time just doesnt get old!
the hitman series, they may not be utterly amazing and groundbreaking but they are still superb and theres not many like them

havent played hl2 yet!
btw talking of max payne 2 has anyone here done any modding on it? i cant figure out how

i magre wih you comletly...those are all cool games

[freezeflamer]

Starcraft (and Brood War), Age of Empires II (and Conquerors), Command and Conquer (anything before Renegade and Generals - they're good and all - but don't fare up to the older ones), Unreal Tournament (GOTY, 2k3, 2k4, UT3) Call of Duty (1, UO, 2, 4), World of Warcraft, BioShock, Resident Evil 4, Portal, Half-Life 2, CounterStrike Source, Half-Life Source

Wow.

Well those are just some of my fav's on PC. But I guess you guys could either agree or disagree.

[magnumsandwich]

BG2- SoA/ToB (i like making words into letters :D)

[shivashankar]

max payne is the best game ever. looks a lot like a real one.

[BoomSickle]

Meh, I thought Dead to Rights was better myself.

My top 5, in order, are

1. Fire Emblem (7)

2. Ocarina

3. Metal Gear Solid 2

4. The World Ends With You.

5. Star Fox 64

[Love_Spinja]

max payne is the best game ever. looks a lot like a real one.

oh dear how could you say that lol...

[flameboy118]

BG2- SoA/ToB (i like making words into letters :D)

thats baldurs gate 2, shadows of ann/throne of bhaal for all you uninformed, and its fantastic

agreeing with freezeflamer for the most part

[Bujaka]

cod2 multiplayer was the best game ever until evryone left for cod4 and i was stuck with my old pc :( man it was soooo fun i miss so much

[Afterlife]

Medieval total war i reckon is got to be one of the best. Unfortunatly its not compatible with the newer graphics cards so i cant play it anymore :(

[RabidDemon]

super mario brothers :D

[freezeflamer]

Super Mario Brothers. Legendary. This calls for a lolcat I've been hanging on to for a while.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k90/retroville_uk/lolcat.jpg

[flameboy118]

haha 'This calls for a lolcat!'

[PerfectCell]

I like too many genres to have a favourite game of all time. But I love quite a few games, such as Oblivion, which has given me hundreds of hours, and Grim Fandango, for just being a masterpiece of a game.